Eric Rothschild, representing the Kitzmiller plaintiffs, in Plaintiffs’ Response to Defendants’ Proposed Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law:
Defendants spend 898 paragraphs of proposed factual findings and 52 proposed legal conclusions avoiding the mountain of inconvenient evidence demonstrating that the Dover Area School Boardâs change to the biology curriculum was done for religious reasons, and that intelligent design is inherently religious. At bottom, their defense depends on three unsustainable contentions: (1) It doesnât matter that intelligent designâs designers describe their movement as a religious one. (2) It doesnât matter what the Board members said about creationism or religion generally because intelligent design is not religious. And therefore (3) this Court should not base its decision in this case on the types of evidence that were dispositive in Edwards and McLean. But defendantsâ position cannot be squared with either the evidence or the Supreme Courtâs and the Third Circuitâs settled Establishment Clause jurisprudence. For the record is clear that intelligent design is a religious view; that defendants latched onto it because they wanted to impart that religious view to Doverâs ninth-graders; and that defendants succeeded in their goal. No reasonable observer could draw any other conclusions.
and — this is too good, I have to include it:
On the hotly contested issue whether board members who eventually voted for the change to the biology curriculum were discussing creationism at the June 2004 board meetings, defendants again suggest facts that can co-exist only in parallel universes. Defendants admit that William Buckingham discussed creationism at the June board meetings (Defs.â FF 244, 267), but then insist that âone of the inaccuracies in the press reporting on board meetings was that the reporters were referring to ID as creationism.â Defs.â FF 248. While arguments can exist in the alternative, facts cannot. Either the Board was promoting creationism at the June meetings (and the reporters described events correctly) or it was not. The evidence â and defendantsâ admissions in paragraphs 244 and 267 â make clear which account is correct.
William Dembski, quoted by Panda’s Thumb (12/5):
As for your example, Iâm not going to take the bait. Youâre asking me to play a game: âProvide as much detail in terms of possible causal mechanisms for your ID position as I do for my Darwinian position.â ID is not a mechanistic theory, and itâs not IDâs task to match your pathetic level of detail in telling mechanistic stories. If ID is correct and an intelligence is responsible and indispensable for certain structures, then it makes no sense to try to ape your method of connecting the dots. True, there may be dots to be connected. But …
Paul Mirecki, quoted in God, Science, and the Kooky Kansans Who Love Them Both! (12/5):
Youâll often hear fundamentalists say, âScience is a religion, Darwin is the high priest, and you have to have faith to believe in evolution.â This is just nonsense. I donât believe in evolution. I accept the findings of scientists. Thereâs a big difference between the two.
Kansas State Sen. Karin Brownlee, R-Olathe, quoted in Lawrence Journal-World (11/24):
We have to set a standard that itâs not culturally acceptable to mock Christianity in America.
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